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Wednesday, April 9, 2014

Waldorf School Reviews - Updated

Here are some recent (past few months) reviews of Waldorf schools:

Pasadena Waldorf School
http://www.greatschools.org/california/altadena/9839-Pasadena-Waldorf-School/?tab=reviews

Posted April 2, 2014

I was highly disappointed with this school. I was seduced by the beautiful grounds healthy vegan snacks and gorgeous gift shop. But beyond the exterior I experienced an extraordinary rigidity. My daughter was told not to do yoga (unhealthy - do Steiner exercises instead) not to do family bed (encourages too much dependence - she was a toddler ) and to play with silk scarves instead of write letters or read (frowned upon before the age of 7). I also felt the practice of having only one class teacher for all the grades was fundamentally limiting. Most importantly I felt our teacher didn't have the skills to cope with either conflict resolution or bullying (which happened). I ended up taking my daughter out of the school.
—Submitted by a parent
Marin Waldorf school
Posted February 2, 2014

Waldorf philosophy is amazing and each child should receive such great education. Although Marin Waldorf School has great community; the administration and management are lacking in the ability to honor the truth and to speak the truth. Keep parents in blind. They always making the most stupid decision to avoid any trouble for the school ! If you want to send your child(ren) to this school... you need to think twice. There are so many Waldorf schools in bay area to choose.
—Submitted by a parent
East Bay Waldorf School





3/10/2014

Ridiculous! They don't teach your kid anything to prepare for mainstream school. They charge a ton of money to have your kid play around and develop motor skills until age 9 or 10 before teaching them reading, writing, and math skills! You can't let your kid wear logos or any type of name brand media nor can you let your child watch any type of media even at home! They say they don't teach religion, but a picture of the Virgin Mary holding baby Jesus is in the classroom! That's an establishment of religion! Yet, they say all religions and cultures are welcome!

They charge you a very high non-refundable application fee as if you are applying for a college! They make you fill out a very thorough application before you can even find out if the school is the right fit for your child! After they accept your application, they set up an interview with you and the teacher to see if the school is right for you!

What really pissed me off is when the pre-school teacher handed me some essays on Waldorf philosophy on education and asked me if I know how to read English! Just because I don't look White doesn't mean I'm not educated!

Waldorf School of Orange County
Posted February 27, 2013

My kids had the worst time in their life at this school. The faculties believe large class is better than small one so they keep adding students. The teachers yell at kids in daily bases in order to take care of 30 and more kids in their class with many learning disability kids. The school has big financial problem so they are BIG on donation and it is on the must to do list. They have the chart for donation and it tells how much family had participated on donating the money by each grades. They are competing on which grade get 100 percent participation on annual donation. Most of teacher doesn t have the education degree and those are the one teaches for 1-8. Because they are not capable to cover all subjects many family rely on private tutoring at home. The school has many ritual activities and in order to perform the event they cut down from main lesson curriculum. There is big time bullying going on by kids and by teachers. I felt that the school has poor quality for education and unhealthy social behavior.
—Submitted by a parent
Waldorf School of Lexington
Posted March 18, 2014
This school feels magical and a long awaited haven from the public school rat race. The teachers are warm, dedicated and gifted in what they do. Most of them. However the administration is draconian, inaccessible and disrespectful. Don't expect communication from anyone if you have concerns about your child. They have no interest in a holistic approach to families - i.e. sibling preference for classes - which creates an extremely awkward situation for numerous longstanding families. They have no endowment, and little ability to manage money. The administration does not support the teaching staff, particularly with classes that have children who may have special needs. The state of the school under the current leadership - and particularly the director, who stays locked in a room unseen - is tenuous at best, particularly in the greater Boston area. Waldorf philosophy yes. Waldorf of Lexington, a big disappointing no.
—Submitted by a parent

Kimberton Waldorf School
Posted December 20, 2013

This school seems to be going through an identity crisis. It is either so rooted in Steiner and not able to open up to what our changing world and children need or it is trying to match up to it's private school neighbors. The way in which this school is lead is disheartening, there is a core (senior) members whom will support themselves even if it means being deceitful and untruthful. Yes, it sits on an amazing campus. But if one looks beyond the cows, hills and land you will find that this school lacks in so much. As for the teachers there are teachers at KWS that continue to bully, shame, judge, and label children. This school is very far from teaching from head, heart and hand. There is no place for a child to go or parent to go to address any concerns. Basically there is no parent voice. And, if your child has any kind of difficulty then for get it, this school is not skilled in supporting any kind of learning or behavioral challenges . KWS is very good at wowing you in and looking wonderful, but truly it is not at all an education worth paying for or subjecting your child too.

Three Cedars Waldorf School
Posted February 4, 2014
It seemed like an amazing school at first, but Three Cedars declined over the years that my children attended. Specifically the culture changed from a community that sought to include all of the students and welcomed parents on campus and especially at festivals to a closed and cold campus that promoted secretive communication and rumor-mongering among both students and parents. While I enjoyed much of the beautiful artwork produced by my children and some of their classmates, the core curriculula of arithmetic and English were very weak. Some teachers were very good at their subjects and as community leaders but many of those teachers have left the school the past two years or so.
—Submitted by a parent
Posted January 23, 2014
I wanted to believe in Three Cedars. My children were there for over five years. One of my children had learning difficulties and the other was a high achiever. The school could not meet the needs of either one so a change had to be made and it has been a huge improvement for each child. I also want to add that the faculty at Three Cedars seems somewhat secretive in how it operates and it sometimes made me uncomfortable as a parent.
—Submitted by a parent
Posted January 20, 2014
Our child attended Three Cedars for several years after we grew disillusioned with public school. While Three Cedars was generally pleasant during our child s younger years, we grew concerned about the level of academic achievement as our child grew into the middle school years. The matter was complicated by the upheaval of having our child s main teacher depart in the midst of the school year and the school s inability to hire a replacement teacher for the remainder of the entire year and the school s decision to bring in a patchwork quilt of temporary block teachers. These events occurred at a critical time in our child s education and set our child (and likely many other members of the class) back. We ultimately felt that Three Cedars was not providing the necessary foundation for higher learning in upper middle school and high school and decided to remove our child. It has been an academic catch-up battle for our child since arriving at the new school.
—Submitted by a parent
Posted January 18, 2014

While I do not subscribe to Anthroposophy, the ideology that guides Waldorf pedagogy, I do feel this school can meet some children better than other private or public schools. The Early Childhood faculty is amazing and a beneficial fit for most children. But there are teacher imposed lifestyle challenges for parents and children in the grades program. Science and mathematics are weak in the grades program. The education is portfolio rather than grade based, and reading is discouraged until age 7. There are a number of children with health challenges at the school and while the school works to meet these children, I have found that it can be difficult for ordinary, healthy children, like my two kids, to thrive in a classroom environment where more children than average are not vaccinated, have profound dietary restrictions, or suffer from a variety or emotional disturbances. The school strives for multiculturalism but is challenged with bullying in the grades owing to it's use of an orthodox boundary-based or behavioral approach to discipline. Team sports are very limited. Currently, it has postponed it's accreditation with AWSNA and NWAIS.
—Submitted by a parent
Posted January 13, 2014
I don't doubt that many parents have had good experiences even in middle school at TC over the years and think highly of the Waldorf curriculum. The problem with Three Cedars, however, is that both the director and all of the current middle school teachers feel it appropriate to treat some children badly without facts to support their actions. My children are not the only ones to depart for this reason. Moreover under the current director since 2011, six teachers, or nearly every veteran Waldorf main lesson teacher at the school when the director took over, has left Three Cedars. Also there is little oversight for the actions of the current school administration beyond the Board of Trustees and it seems disinclined to act as it hired the director.
—Submitted by a parent
Four Winds Waldorf School
http://www.yelp.com/biz/four-winds-waldorf-school-warrenville
2/8/2014 


It's been quite a while since my daughter attended this school, but I ran across this listing on Yelp while looking for a restaurant, so I thought I'd share our experience. I transferred my daughter here when she was getting picked on in the 6th grade. Unfortunately, my daughter encountered the same hostility at this school, and from some of the parents, one of whom was also a staff member. My daughter was excluded from a Halloween party that was given by the secretary of the school and her daughter, who was in my daughter's class. The other 3 girls in my daughter's class were invited, and they kept it a secret from us. Unfortunately, my daughter found out about it and was so hurt that she cried for days. I could not believe that an employee of a school that supposedly promotes supporting the emotion well-being of children could be so cruel. I did not re-enroll her the next year for obvious reasons.    




Friday, May 11, 2012

San Francisco Waldorf School Reviews by Parents


http://www.yelp.com/biz/san-francisco-waldorf-high-school-san-francisco






 6/2/2014

I spent 3 years as a student, and for the first time in my life, threw in the towel and requested to take the GED and get it over with. Like Tasha pointed out, The school has a few avenues depending on the child's willingness to play along. The whole experience was very soft and dreamy, as is the belief in, and surrounding philosophies of fairies and gnomes. I found that Waldorf is comprised of two types of teachers. Those with actual experience and work history, who are somewhat forced to play along with the druidic rituals, and those who treat the school like a religious cult. What if I told you the craziest teachers were Waldorf students themselves?

I have mixed feelings about the curriculum because in my impression, high school is much more about social development than learning applicable knowledge, so the fact that we changed subjects every two or three weeks left me with the feeling of only having a superficial understanding about anything other than crayons and watercolor. When I compare my self development  to friends who either left early or went to other schools, I felt like Adam staring at Eve taking a bite of the apple. I was sheltered, naive, and had little to no understanding of how the real world actually worked.

When criticized about their allergy to technology and the general reality of things, the school setup a pathetic attempt at an intro to computers class. It was obvious to me that their values lie within creating a protective culture to raise children to be happy and oblivious.

What I came here to write about is really the shock of the real world that followed my early departure. I felt like an Amish kid set loose in the city. You want to talk about wanton abandon? That's a good way to line up the pins. I had to party my ass off just to wipe away the frivolous programming and years of boredom that my family paid good money for. For the years following my high-school experience, I was grateful for a few things that Waldorf actually did provide. A handful of good friends who shared the post bubble-world shock either before or with me, the sometimes elusive ability to formulate a sentence, and a love of rebellion.

Should I put another person on the planet, I would perhaps consider early developmental years at a Montessori or Waldorf, but when middle school hits, you need to involve your child in a heap of activities and programs outside of the bubble or else they will be socially unequipped to deal with tomorrow's aggressive economy. Overall my experience was protective in the regard that I'm not addicted to meth, but it's taken me a good length of time to acclimate into the professional adult world, and now I'm the one catching up.

I chose three stars because two indicates that I've experienced better, and that's obviously a lie.

    • Miki C.
    • Ingleside, San Francisco, CA 3/21/2014

  • this school.. has been the worst experience of my life!!!
    i came in as the only asian american born and because i was asian everyone automatically treated me like an international.. the math here sucks which is sucks even more because math is my worst subject and needs extra explaining which the teachers did NONE OF.
    i was a loner at the school because 90% of the people there came from the grade school and already were friends the other 10% were left to either be by themselves or be friends with the other outcasts. i came here only because my momforced me into it. thank god i survived two years without pucturing myself with a knife.. im now a junior at lincoln highschool and even though its been a week im all happy with 6 one hour class everyday than having 3 free periods the sane dayy... also because the topics at waldorf are so scattered my transcript is uncomplete so i havd to take multiple outside classes just to get the credits (two years of highschool and tuition down the drain)  and on top of that i have SAT prep and i still have actual school to focus on.. ...
    so waldorf... you ruined my highschool experience.. because my two years were the years i honestly had suicidal thoughts my junior year is crammed with all the classes i shouldve tooken but couldnt because of waldorfs messed up system and senior year will be busy because i need to take AP classes WHICH WALDORF DOESNT PROVIDE SO YOU WOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR IT SOMEWHERE ELSE.. bottom line.. i was shunned and didnt gain any learning experience.. except to not send my kid here
    • James S.
    • San Francisco, CA
    • 3/18/2014
    • I was part of the "waldorf community" for around 13 years. During this time I learnt absolutely nothing. Most of my friends (apart from those whose parents were teachers) needed to be tutored for just about everything because the teaching system and their "philosophy" is absurd. They did not teach us to properly read until about 5th grade, and we started learning basic math in 7th grade. The high school wasn't much better. I DO NOT recommend that you send your children to this school, they are better off at one of the normal private schools where they will actually get a good education and not end up in community college like so many of the graduates.

  • This is from first hand experience. My parents wasted about $800,000 putting me and my brother through this school and they full heartedly regret it. 

  • Tasha A.
  • San Francisco, CA
  • 6/29/2011

OK, this review is long over due, however, Yelp wasn't invented when I was in high school here. 
I'm going to try to sum this up and be brief. 
The philosophy does not fit in with what most of the world is expecting out of these kids. 
We didn't have text books, (we had to make our own), we were not allowed to use computers...
Hypocritical, as the  administration could use computers. 

I found myself my 2nd year of high school dancing to spoken word poetry, writing by hand every single paper for years as the teacher dictated lengthy lectures. I learned nothing regarding a trade a vocation, or college prep. 

All your teachers are the same, year after year. Possibly a great bond with your educator. However, If you're on not so great terms or have a personality clash you're potentially  screwed from 1-8th grade. and 9-12th. 

It didn't prepare me for college, it hindered me. I left before graduation. 
The "Non-Waldorfians" as we transfers were called (who didn't grow up in the system since birth) ALL dropped out and transferred, most even before certain semesters were up. 
It says something about the establishment  that if "outsiders" all leave that something is probably wrong.  

Just please  don't put a child here who wants to be a graphic designer or really thrive in this competitive technology based society that most of us live in.
READ THIS LINK FROM THE NY TIMES (and the comments)

community.nytimes.com/co…



Posted May 16, 2012


Our Son attended Waldorf for 5 years after 1 years at a public school. The curriculum at the public school was one dimensional, geared towards tests and scores. Waldorf was the opposite, warm and nurturing, with art and extracurricular activities. As an interim solution it is great. He flourished as a person . We contribute his self esteem to his teacher and the school. However, the school is lacking academics and some teachers are ill equipped to instruct subjects in the 6-8 grades. The school has one methodology; if your child does not respond they are unwilling adjust. Feedback is not welcomed and communication is poor. There are no text books or grades so it impossible to track how your child is performing. 2 parent teacher conferences are scheduled yearly and a hand written school report is provided in the summer. The school report is beautifully handwritten but the focus is the class holistically and how your child is evolving as a person. We are moving our son to a new school in 6th grade. No doubt there will be other issues. However, this move is necessary so that our son can get up to speed academically and receive real help in the areas that he is struggling.
—Submitted by a parent
 
Posted March 11, 2011
We were very excited about having our daughter attend Waldorf High School It seemed like a perfect fit for her. My concerns began at the first Parent/Teacher/Administrator get together. When asked about getting progress reports on how our children were doing. We were told that would only occur if they were failing. Try getting into a good college with C s. My next concern was my daughter stating how easy all her classes were. Coming from a student that has always worked hard to achieve good grades this was a concern. Luckily we moved to Marin and enrolled our children in a public school . Having always felt private school was important to get the best education possible, it was quite eye opening to hear from most of her new teachers that our daughter was way behind in the basic s required for college. My daughters fond memories of Waldorf turned into a nightmare for her in the amount of additional work she needed to do to catch up. Other friends who attended Waldorf were forced to spend several thousand dollars to help their children score well on the SATs. Nice school, way below average on teaching and preparing children for college. —Submitted by a parent

Posted November 15, 2006
Very rigid. Works well for children with absolutely no learning issues, dyslexia etc. Otherwise it's a train wreck. The early grades,( pre K-5), are fine to excellent if your child gets a good teacher as they have the same class teacher for 8 years. However, even with the best teacher, at the onset of adolescence problems arise. They seem to have a very hard time letting children grow into young adults in an urban environment in this century. There is drama, art and music but no real creativity allowed. Parents are expected to provide a huge amount of practical and financial support but have absolutely no voice in school decisions. For the amount of tuition charged there are wiser choices.
—Submitted by a parent


Posted October 26, 2003
Our child has completed ten years at SFWS. While we feel that the theoretical pedagogy is extraordinarily beautiful and one every child anywhere would be nourished by... the bottom line is that it is only as good as the teacher's own preparation. This is because the child stays with the same teacher the entire 8 years of the lower school. If the teacher's own academic preparation is mediocre and their emotional fitness for the task of taking the children through the first eight grades is tenuous than, this is naturally impacted upon the child. As Waldorf is truly 'alternative' it tends to attract teachers who are less rigorous academically and, definately more artistic! This is lovely and makes for a highly sensitive and gentle curriculum but, it can leave the student unprepared for today's secondary school expectations eg. keyboarding and computer, math skills, creative writing and standardized test taking. One can become 'locked-in' to the Waldorf curriculum... at third grade there's no chance to leave because most of the kids aren't reading yet; at sixth there's the fear of the culture of public middle schools and, at ninth they don't have the skills requisite for the fast track high schools (computer, math, test taking). In the end, we are glad our son has gone to Waldorf but, because this is such a different world than it was 30, 50 or 80 years ago... perhaps we should have put him in a more competitive and rigorously academic environment. The physical environment and the performing arts of the K-8 lower school are wonderful.
—Submitted by a parent


http://gocitykids.parentsconnect.com/attraction/san-francisco-waldorf-school-2938-washington-street-san-francisco-ca-94115-us

Any prospective parents should learn about Anthroposophy, the religion/philosophy, that Waldorf education is based upon. Information and links to both pro and con Waldorf sites is available at Openwaldorf.com.
- Posted by Anonymous

No Black crayons? No wearing Black? (Black is an "undesirable" color) No photographs (except ones of Rudolf Steiner)? No mirrors? No reading taught until your kid loses their baby teeth? The teachers believe that gnomes are real life forms. They believe in curing cancer with mistletoe. If all of the above makes sense to you, then you'll love Waldorf Schools.  - Posted by Anonymous
(Information on GoCityKids website is not updated for this school) This school follows the Steiner philosophy...arts-based, lovely curriculum but there is the anthroposophical underpinnings which potential parents should know about. Recently the school has had upheavals in the lower grades--poor teachers and disgruntled parents. Please make sure you check out the teacher for your child's grade before enrolling, as that teacher remains with your child for 8 years! That said, you can find a very pleasant, stress-free environment for your child, which is VERY different from any other private school in the city. - Posted by Anonymous

Here's a great blog that goes into detail about this school:
http://thesfkfiles.blogspot.com/2009/10/san-francisco-waldorf-school.html
Don't miss the comments.